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 > From: David Terrell 
            <DTerrell@warnerpacific.edu>
 > Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:56:26 -0800
 > To: 'Todd Duncan' <duncan@scienceintegration.org>
 > Subject: RE: quote of the week
 >
 > The problem I find is with the language we use to describe what 
            we think is
 > the theory that supports our model of the physical world. As 
            when we use
 > "units" to scale different values of the physical parameter 
            being studied,
 > there is no objectivity choosing the units, but it is an objective
 > description of the phenomena when we say that one value is greater 
            than the
 > other. Take temperature as an example, is the temperature of 
            the universe
 > higher or lower than it was yesterday? (to mention some time 
            in the past)
 > Greeting to all,
 > David Terrell Ph.D.
 > Associate Professor of Physical Science
 > Dept. Sciences and Mathematics
 > Warner Pacific College
 > (http://www.warnerpacific.edu)
 > Phone: 503 517-1071
 >
 >> From: "Russell J. Hamilton" <rj-hamilton@uchicago.edu>
 >> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 08:39:00 -0600
 >> To: Science Integration Institute <info@scienceintegration.org>
 >> Subject: Re: quote of the week
 >>
 >> There was a time in my life that I would have agreed with 
            this statement.
 >> Now I would say that it is an assumption that an objective 
            reality exists.
 >> I do not believe that there is a separation between THE objective 
            reality
 >> and A physical therapy.
 >>
 >> Any thoughts?
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >> At 08:45 PM 11/25/2000 -0800, you wrote:
 >>> "Any serious consideration of a physical theory 
            must take into account
 > the
 >>> distinction between the objective reality, which is independent 
            of any
 >>> theory, and the physical concepts with which the theory 
            operates. These
 >>> concepts are intended to correspond with the objective 
            reality, and by
 > means
 >>> of these concepts we picture this reality to ourselves."
 >>>
 >>> - Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen (Physical Review, 47, 
            777, 1935)
 >>>
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