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            Since it's already stirred 
              up so much interesting discussion, I thought I'd give a little more 
              background on this quote. It's the opening paragraph of a now-famous 
              paper by Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen (EPR), titled, "Can 
              quantum-mechanical description of reality be considered complete?" 
              As many of you probably know, Einstein objected to quantum theory 
              on the grounds that it *cannot* be a complete description of objective 
              reality (as he conceived of "objective reality.") So EPR 
              raise this point about the distinction between objective reality 
              and the description of a theory in order to set the stage for their 
              argument that quantum theory leaves out some elements which are 
              present in objective reality.
            As a simple example, 
              if "reality" consisted of a single particle, your "theory" 
              might specify the position and velocity of that particle, and it 
              would be a good theory if measurements of the postion and velocity 
              always agreed with the predictions of your theory. But if, for example, 
              the particle was found to split in two, or to change colors between 
              blue and red or something, then this would indicate that your theory 
              was incomplete. There are obviously physical properties of the system 
              that were not accounted for in your theory.
            The EPR paper is a very 
              cleverly contrived thought experiment intended to force the reader 
              to accept that there are properties of particles in nature which 
              must *have* specific values, while quantum theory does not specify 
              these values. Therefore, according to EPR, quantum theory must be 
              "incomplete" - it leaves out of its description some elements 
              which must exist out there in "objective reality." Interestingly, 
              even more cleverly arranged real experiments (done fairly recently 
              - early 80's) seem to show that EPR were wrong - the properties 
              which quantum theory does not specify, really do NOT exist in nature.
            Anyway, it's an interesting 
              example of a very abstract-looking philosophical discussion about 
              the nature of reality, which is actually subject to experimental 
              test.
            If anyone really wants 
              to delve into any of these things, a good starting point is a book 
              by Jim Baggott, "The Meaning of Quantum Theory," Oxford 
              U. Press, 1992
            Todd
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              > From: Science Integration Institute <info@scienceintegration.org>
              > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 20:45:08 -0800
              > To: SII listserv post <science@lists.pdx.edu>
              > Subject: quote of the week
              > 
              > "Any serious consideration of a physical theory must take 
              into account the
              > distinction between the objective reality, which is independent 
              of any
              > theory, and the physical concepts with which the theory operates. 
              These
              > concepts are intended to correspond with the objective reality, 
              and by means
              > of these concepts we picture this reality to ourselves."
              > 
              > - Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen (Physical Review, 47, 777, 
              1935)