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 Hi everyone,
 I'm forwarding part of a recent conversation with Jack, because I 
            think it raises an important question: Is "taking away some of 
            the fun of life" a necessary consequence of thinking scientifically? 
            If not, then what is it about the way science is often presented that 
            makes people view it this way? I sometimes feel this way about science 
            myself, but I'm not quite sure I can pinpoint why. Is it that science 
            brings us face to face with the limitations that the "external 
            world" imposes upon us, and we rebel against that? Or is it something 
            else?
 - Todd
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 Todd,
 
 I was thinking about part our conversation about athletic performance 
            earlier today. It's the part of the conversation when we were talking 
            about using science to optimize athletic training and race performance. 
            We both agreed that we should be able to monitor an athlete and work 
            out ways to optimize performance. What later really struck me was 
            our conversation where you said something like, "It seems doing 
            that might take some of the fun out of it." I replied, "Do 
            you want fun, or do you want to win?"
 
 Partly we were just kidding around, but what really struck me later 
            about what we said is that I've heard this conversation before. In 
            SLA classes, I've heard humanities majors saying this about science. 
            What I've heard them saying is that they feel that doing things "scientifically" 
            might "take some of the fun out of it." When we were talking, 
            I shared in knowing exactly what you meant, because I've often found 
            myself in other situations saying exactly what you said.
 
 I think that this is an important issue about attitudes toward science. 
            People somehow feel deep down that science will take away freedom, 
            choices, and fun. For example, a lot of research comes out about what 
            we should eat or not eat to optimize health. But people still want 
            to eat what they want to eat (myself included). Science is perceived 
            almost like going on a diet. And most diets are no fun. In a similar 
            way, being taught science is almost like being told how to think, 
            what to think, what's right and wrong. Science is perceived almost 
            like going on a mental diet. People want to think what they want to 
            think. They don't want "science" to take away their freedom, 
            choices, and fun.
 
 For me, our conversation helped crystallize this issue in my mind. 
            Let me crystallize the issue with some questions:
 
 How does following a scientific program (e.g., for athletic performance, 
            diet, thinking) take away the fun? Why do most of us (myself included) 
            want the freedom to do what we want despite what "scientific 
            research" says? And if we separate our personal choices (diet, 
            excercise, etc.) from what scientific research indicates we should 
            do, then is science really integrated into our lives? If we do want 
            to integrate science in our lives, does this mean that our food choices 
            should be governed by scientific research? Most of us adopt compromises. 
            But where do we draw the line of compromise? What roledoes "nutritional 
            information fatigue" play in us giving up in despair and deciding 
            to just eat anything because it's more fun? Is there an analogous 
            "science information fatigue?" It comes down to the general 
            questions: Do people have to protect themselves against a science 
            that takes away their freedom, choices, and fun? Is science incompatible 
            with fun?
 
 -Jack
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