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            Hi, Danyeke.
            I recommend checking 
              out chapter 4 of "An Ordinary World: The Role of Science in 
              Your Search for Personal Meaning"
              (www.scienceintegration.org/books.htm) and an article at http://www.aps.org/units/fps/apr01/apcom.html#a1 
              ("The Perceived Conflict Between Science and Meaning") 
              for further ideas about why people may find science alienating and 
              how best to respond to that.
            Amanda
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            -----Original Message-----
              From: Danyeke J. Swanson [mailto:djs@bogon.net]
              Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 11:29 AM
              To: science@lists.pdx.edu
              Subject: Science and alienationGreetings all,
              A brief introduction: I'm a post-baccalaureate student, majoring 
              in philosophy and minoring in mathematics. I specialize in philosophy 
              of cognitive science and artificial intelligence. I wanted to discuss 
              a recent experience and ask for suggestions from those of you who 
              probably deal with this kind of thing more often than I.
            In one of my philosophy 
              classes, we are discussing certain existentialist philosophers' 
              claims that science is (partly or wholly) responsible for human 
              alienation. These philosophers have advanced the idea that, in doing 
              science, scientists have presupposed something ontologically inappropriate 
              about the "being" of objects--namely, that in describing, 
              say, a hammer (in terms of subatomic particles), they are *beginning* 
              with ONE object rather than, say, two or five or twenty. It's as 
              if they are saying that 
              divisions between an object or organism and the world are arbitrary. 
              (I'm aware that I could be misinterpreting the intent here, but 
              that's the best way I know how to sum up what I heard).
            Several students spoke 
              up about how science (especially physics) and its reductionist methodologies 
              "reduce everything to subatomic particles or collections of 
              atoms" and "strip things of their human meanings and purposes" 
              by "separating us off from the objects of our perception". 
              They called for a more "humanized" worldview, and made 
              it clear that this kind of view would not be available from science's 
              "disinterested, detached" way of explaining the world.
            Most of the students 
              agreed with this view, but I did not. I spoke up in defense of science, 
              but unfortunately, I found myself the lone voice in support of of 
              the idea that science does *not* have to be alienating--in fact, 
              I added, science can be a profound source of wonder, awe, and connection 
              to the world. (One of many examples that convinced me of this is 
              a book by Evelyn Fox Keller called "A Feeling For the Organism: 
              The Life and Work of Barbara McLintock").
            I mentioned that I thought 
              good science should be self-critical and always open to re-evaluation, 
              rather than thought of as the final arbiter of all possible truth 
              and reality to the exclusion of other worldviews. To take one example, 
              I suggested that we could use complementary "levels of explanation" 
              in order to hold these ideas in our minds at once, instead of positing 
              them as opposite ends of a continuum. We could think of a hammer 
              as BOTH a "collection of atoms" and a tool for human use, 
              simultaneously and without any loss of "meaning" that 
              comes from its human uses.
            However, I don't think 
              the instructor or my fellow students were very convinced. Admittedly, 
              I was struggling to find the best way to express these views from 
              within a philosophical context. I used to think science was alienating, 
              but that changed a lot as I got older and learned more about science.
            So I would like to ask: 
              What might *you* have said in a similar situation? What might I 
              have said that would discourage people from such glib dismissals 
              of science? I'd like to be better prepared if an opportunity like 
              this arises again in the future.
            Thanks in advance for 
              any comments!
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              Danyeke J. Swanson http://www.bogon.net/dswanson
            "Mathematics has 
              been most advanced by those who distinguished
              themselves by intuition rather than by rigorous proofs."
              - Felix Klein