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            I fail to comprehend 
              the vailidity of the quote no matter which point of view I choose 
              to analyze it from. Furthermore, a quote with dual authorship puzzles 
              me.
              -rjh
            At 01:11 PM 05/02/2000 
              -0700, Maya Lessov wrote:
              >Hm. I agree that an antiscientific philsophy and an alienating 
              science are
              >undesireable, but I don't see how a rigid conception of time 
              contributes
              >to either. Just because the conception is rigid does not mean 
              its
              >application and the systems within which it functions are. Time 
              is the
              >way we measure and notice change. Maybe I don't understand where
              >Prigogine and Stengers are coming from or what theories they 
              are refuting.
              >But I see my definition of time as rigid (law-like, I don't 
              know about
              >reversable), and yet I don't think a universe with such a time 
              function 
              >is incapable of producing living beings. Obviously it isn't. 
              Time is
              >just an abstraction, a way we describe changes. What do these 
              writers
              >mean? 
              >
              >maya
              >
              >> "To deny time - that is, to reduce it to a mere deployment 
              of a reversible
              >> law - is to abandon the possibility of defining a conception 
              of nature
              >> coherent with the hypothesis that nature produced living 
              beings,
              >> particularly man. It dooms us to choosing between an antiscientific
              >> philosophy and an alienating science."
              >> 
              >> - Ilya Prigogine and Isabelle Stengers