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            Todd,
            I think the best way 
              to attract people to science is to expose the contradictions that 
              exist in it - so science becomes curious, otherwise it is boring. 
              Below you give the common understanding of the first and second 
              law - let me take the opportunity to show where thermodynamics is 
              mythological, in my view.
            Todd Duncan wrote:
              > Hi everyone,
              >
              > Just a little background context for those who aren't so familiar 
              with
              > thermodynamics:
              >
              > The second law of thermodynamics expresses our experience that 
              energy tends
              > to dissipate with time, spreading out into forms that are less 
              and less
              > accessible for use to drive any particular process of interest.
            Yes this is the conventional 
              view but I am afraid natural processes contradict
              it. For instance, as a gas expands spontaneously (and isothermally), 
              no energy
              is dissipated - rather, the gas' energy remains the same. As an 
              endothermic
              chemical reaction proceeds, the opposite process takes place - heat 
              is absorbed
              from the surroundings and converted into energy of chemical bonds. 
              Roughly
              speaking, half of the processes in the Universe dissipate energy, 
              the other half
              do the opposite.
            There is a line of argument 
              parallel to the energy-dissipation one. As the gas
              expands, people see this as a movement towards chaos - as if matter
              desintegrates with no tendency to restore its "integrated" 
              state again. But what
              if the gas gets adsorbed on some surface, or the gas molecules react 
              chemically
              and form macroscopic structures? Again, there are too opposite and 
              equal
              tendencies - towards desintegration and integration. Note that the 
              concepts may
              prove purely anthropomorphic - most probably, Nature does not care 
              much about
              our perception of integration and desintegration.
            > According to the 
              law of conservation of energy (the first law of
              > thermodynamics), the total amount of energy is always conserved, 
              so when you
              > lose energy in one form, you always gain the same amount somewhere 
              else, in
              > another form. For example, a ball at rest at the top of a hill 
              has no
              > kinetic energy (the energy associated with motion) but it has 
              gravitational
              > potential energy because it's up on a hill. If it rolls down 
              the hill it
              > loses some of its gravitational potential energy, but exactly 
              the amount it
              > loses is converted into other forms -- in this case kinetic 
              energy and a
              > little heat due to the friction between the ball and the surface 
              of the
              > hill. No matter what complicated interactions might occur between 
              the ball
              > and its environment (it might hit something and emit sound 
              waves, create a
              > spark and give off light, etc), the total amount of energy 
              always stays the
              > same if you are careful to keep track and add it all up.
            This discovery of Julius 
              Robert Mayer is incomparable. He suffered derision at
              first and then they put him in a mental institution, just in case.
            > So a rough way to 
              think of the second law is that it adds an additional
              > constraint on energy transfer -- even though we never lose 
              any energy, we
              > *do* lose the ability to use it for things like powering lights 
              or running a
              > car. More and more of the energy goes into the form of heat 
              which cannot be
              > entirely transferred back into a mechanical process like lifting 
              a weight or
              > propelling a car. So for example in the case of a steam engine 
              we start
              > with energy in a "concentrated" and "useful" 
              form -- ie energy stored in the
              > chemical bonds of the coal or some other fossil fuel -- and 
              at the end of
              > the process we have some of that energy transferred into the 
              energy of
              > motion of the locomotive, and also some of it transferred into 
              heat (in the
              > air, the metal of the engine, etc.). The energy that is in 
              the motion of the
              > train we can fairly easily transfer into other forms (such 
              as gravitational
              > potential energy when the train goes up a hill). But we can 
              only get a
              > limited amount of the heat energy to go back into driving the 
              train. No
              > energy has been *lost* (it's still around in some form), but 
              some of it is
              > now unavailable to perform the work we want to use it for.
            The problem with this 
              line of argument is that a structureless system (gas) is
              dealt with, and the conclusions are regarded as universally valid. 
              Structured
              systems exhibit essentially different properties. Some substances 
              undergo huge
              phase transitions in response to a small chemical "signal" 
              and can do a lot of
              work in the process. For instance, there are macroscopic polymers 
              which, as a
              small amount of protons are added to the system, contract and lift 
              a heavy
              weight. Then we remove the protons and the polymer returns to its 
              initial
              stretched state. At the expense of what does the polymer do the 
              work? In order
              to save the second law, we must accept the the operator, as he adds 
              and then
              withdraws the protons, does this huge amount of work and the polymer 
              only
              "transfers" it towards the weight. But this assumption 
              is not very reasonable
              since the amount of protons is very small - one simply cannot do 
              so much work by
              dealing with such a little quantity. (Of course, there is a more 
              rigorous
              analysis of the effect).
            > One of the very 
              interesting topics in the foundations of physics for the
              > last 150 years or so (and continuing today, as Pentcho is pointing 
              out) has
              > been the process of clarifying exactly what the second law 
              says about nature
              > and the conditions under which it applies. These ideas are 
              important for our
              > discussions of science integration because the second law plays 
              a very
              > dominant role in our everyday lives, and is closely tied to 
              understanding
              > the direction to time which is such an important part of our 
              experience.
            At the conference, among 
              other things, I shall try to prove that that part of
              the second law that deals with the direction of time has nothing 
              to do with the
              one forbidding the existence of perpetual motion machines of the 
              second kind.
            > Also, more information 
              about the San Diego conference on the second law this
              > summer is available at http://www.sandiego.edu/secondlaw2002/ 
              in case anyone
              > else is interested. 
            Pentcho