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 > From: bbmg+@osu.edu 
            (Brian B. McSpadden Gardener)
 > Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 15:24:23 -0500
 > To: Todd Duncan <duncan@scienceintegration.org>
 > Subject: Re: food for thought {and reality}
 >
 > Regarding thought and reality:
 >
 > RE:>I'd like to return to a point that Wilbur Shilling raised 
            back in
 > December:
 >>> Just a small question for Dr. Wilson: Since when has 
            the world
 >>> been run by the wise?
 >>
 >>>> "We are drowning in information, while starving 
            for wisdom. The world
 >>>> henceforth will be run by synthesizers, people able 
            to put together the
 >>>> right information at the right time, think critically 
            about it, and make
 >>>> important choices wisely." -- E.O. Wilson, "Consilience," 
            p.269
 >
 > In response to W. Shilling: Wisdom must refer to some body of 
            knowledge,
 > which may or may not be scientifically-based. I do think that 
            societal
 > leaders tend to be more politically and socially more wise than 
            some other
 > types of wise people (e.g. scientists, engineers, clerics). So 
            while I
 > agree that the fully wise are not always in charge, the fully 
            ignorant are
 > rarely ever in charge. I think Dr. Wilson's statement applies 
            to how all
 > people find their place in societies. Out of context, the second 
            sentence
 > has probably always been true. What was left out was an implicit
 > "generally-speaking". The first sentence highlights 
            what is different now
 > than in the past: more people are in contact with more information 
            to the
 > point of overflow. If people act on the information presented 
            to them in
 > someway, then there is an even greater need for wisdom among 
            all people.
 >
 > As for Dr. Duncan's response:
 >> But more generally, this raises an important question: Do 
            we really think
 >> it's possible to gather knowledge about the universe, synthesize 
            this
 >> knowledge in a way that makes us "wise," and then 
            guide our individual and
 >> social actions from this perspective of wisdom, in a way 
            that significantly
 >> changes the course of events? I tend to think it is possible 
            for wisdom to
 >> make a real difference - the idea that it's important to 
            integrate key
 >> insights from science into the perspective from which we 
            think and act
 >> depends on the belief that the perspective we hold actually 
            makes a real
 >> difference in the world. But this is certainly a debatable 
            point which is
 >> worth discussing.
 >
 > At one level, our world views do guide our decisions and actions. 
            But my
 > experience has led me to believe that many of life's choices 
            are not
 > decided by our most deeply held beliefs&knowledge. Rather, 
            many actions
 > are determined by more immediate needs or perceived needs. So, 
            I do not
 > think that the step-wise process described in Dr. Duncan's question 
            will
 > change the course of events unless people take more time to reflect 
            on
 > their choices, why they are making them, and what the consequences 
            are of
 > their actions in a larger context. This type of reflection, like 
            critical
 > thinking, is not as well practiced as it could be. I believe 
            the potential
 > is there, but people need to appreciate the value of such habits 
            to the
 > improvement of their daily lives.
 >
 > Brian
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